http://www.thebeerinme.com/ Discover Beers. Review Beers. Talk about Beers. Learn about Beers. en-gb 2013-05-18T04:23:24-07:00 thebeerinme@nospam.com hourly 1 2000-01-01T12:00+00:00 http://www.thebeerinme.com/tbimplugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?6372 2013-05-18T04:23:24-07:00 So I'm in Winn-Dixie (a supermarket) last week and I notice a beer that I've never seen before. It's called "McSorley's Irish Pale Ale". I didn't purchase it. So I'm doing a little research on it and I really can't find out who brews this beer? I've seen a website that is supposed to be the brewer, but I can't find any info on McSorley's Irish Pale Ale? Has anyone had this beer yet and does anyone know anything about the brewers? I'll probably get it next week, just to try it out, but I would like some information on it. http://www.thebeerinme.com/tbimplugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?6372 2013-05-18T04:23:24-07:00 Ken Found this:-Website Link--Website Link--Website Link-Quote:At McSorley’s ale is well. McSorley’s Irish Pale Ale is from the old house at home. Established in 1854 in NYC and brewed by McSorley’s Brewery in Wilks-Barre, PA. Brewed in the tradition of the historic walls of McSorley’s Old Ale House. It took 116 years, the pressure of public opinion and ultimately the authority of a court order for McSorley’s to surrender. By the mid 1970s, McSorley’s allowed woman inside the bar at 15 E. 7th St for the very first time. Ah, but the owners did not completely forgo tradition, women would wait until 1986 to get their own restroom. Quote end.1827John McSorley is born: Co.Tyrone, Ireland1847Potato Blight begins in the South of Ireland1850Potato crop failure reached the Northern Counties of Ireland1851John McSorley arrives in New York City on the Ship The Colonist from Liverpool1854John McSorley opens up an ale house at15 East 7th Street in New York City.He calls it "The Old House at Home"1855John McSorley marries Honora Henley1856First child Peter, is born to Honora andJohn McSorley1861William J. McSorley born, John's favorite son and the son who will take the helm of McSorley's Old Ale house.1864-65The building at 15 East 7th Street is improved to become a 5 story tenement. John and family move upstairs over the bar.1868Honora McSorley dies at the age of 35, leaving John to care for 3 children.1872John McSorley marries Catherine Donovan.1875Bill McSorley is apprenticed in the ways of the Ale House. It becomes his first love.1882The play "McSorley's Inflation" opens at the Theatre Comiqe on Broadway. It features a bar room set, a bar owner named Peter McSorley. It plays over 100 performances.1888John and Catherine purchase the building at 15 East 7th Street. They are now landlords.190450th Anniversary of The Old House at Home.1905-06A brief experimental period begins; McSorley's serves hard liquor along with the ale. The experiment ends as suddenly as it begins. McSorley's is an Ale house only from this point on.1908The sign over the front door falls in a storm. It is replaced by one that reads "McSorley's Old Time Ale House". Later the word "Time" is removed.1910John McSorley dies in the second floor flat above the bar. He is 83 years old.1911Bill McSorley takes over the Ale House. He begins to make it a shrine to his departed father.1913John Sloan displays his painting "McSorley's Bar" at the Armory show. Priced at $500, it does not sell.1920Prohibition begins. Beer, ale, wine, liquor and hard cider are illegal. McSorley's sells what they refer to as Near Beer.1925Poet e.e. cummings writes the poem "Sitting in McSorley's1928John Sloan paints "McSorley's Saturday Night." Everyone seems to have a mug in his hands.1932Catherine McSorley, widow of John McSorley dies.1933Prohibition ends. McSorleyÕs is still there. Though many bars now admit women. McSorley's still goes by their philosophy of "Good Ale, Raw Onions, and No Ladies."1934Fidelio Brewery markets bottled McSorley's Ale, Stout & Lager Beer.1936Bill McSorley sells bar to Daniel O'Connell, a patron and NYC policeman. O'Connell retires from the force to become the first non-McSorley to own the place. He changes little.1938Bill McSorley dies1939Daniel O'Connell dies, leaving his saloon to his daughter, Dorothy O'Connell Kirwan. Patrons fear she will renovate and innovate. She does neither, staying out of the place as she promised her father she would. After some minor management problems, she makes her husband Harry Kirwan the manager. He will be in charge until his death.1940New Yorker writer Joseph Mitchell visits the Saloon at 15 East 7th Street. He writes a watershed article, "The Old House at Home" for the New Yorker. A new life begins for the old saloon.1943Joseph Mitchell's articles are compiled in a book, entitled "McSorley's Wonderful Saloon."1943Life Magazine does a feature photographic article on "McSorley's Wonderful Saloon."1954McSorley's celebrates its 100th anniversary. Women are still not permitted inside, including the owner. She only visits on Sundays after they are closed.1960Dorothy and Harry Kirwan's son Danny begins his apprenticeship at the bar.1964While visiting Ireland Harry Kirwan's car breaks down. He is picked up on the road by Matthew Maher. Harry promises him a job in New York. Matty goes to NY to work as a waiter and bartender at McSorley's.1969McSorley's Old Ale house is sued to allow women to enter.1970McSorley's under order of the court and law from the city council considers becoming a private club, but relents to the pressure and opens its doors to women. There are no restrooms for the women. Danny Kirwan wants his mother to be the first woman served. She refuses citing the promise she made her father. Predictions of the end of McSorley's are heard around the world.1974Dorothy Kirwan dies1975Harry Kirwan dies. McSorley's old Ale house now belongs to their "beloved son" as Harry refers to him, Danny Kirwan.1977Matthew Maher, night manager of McSorley's buys the place from Danny Kirwan. It is nowowned by the third family since opening.Text by Will Wander-GL http://www.thebeerinme.com/tbimplugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?6372 2013-05-18T04:23:24-07:00 Andy Thanks for the info GL! The second website you listed is supposed to be their site, but I don't see the beer? http://www.thebeerinme.com/tbimplugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?6372 2013-05-18T04:23:24-07:00 Ken More.....Quote:This is a tricky question. Even looking at the bottle is deceptive. McSorley's Ale is brewed for McSorley's Ale House in NYC. Perhaps they brewed their own a hundred years ago (it's one of those historic places) but not anytime recently. Instead it has been contract brewed. In 2007 it was reportedly by Pabst but the latest seems to by Lions Brewery in Pennsylvania. The Lions web site does not mention their contract brews, only their own labels. This sort of thing is not all that rare when a restaurant or pub has a custom brew done by a contract brewer. And, by the way, such places have been known to change brewers without notice to customers. If you are drinking a bottle, look closely at the label and if it still says Wilkes Barre PA that will be Lions. If you thought it was Irish or perhaps brewed at the Ale House, sorry but nope. Lions is a respectable regional brewer. Quote end.Quote:Friday, July 13, 2007Mistaken Identity - McSorley's Ale Review (Sort of)Back in the day, before I had graduated grade school, and before microbrews had taken over the American beer market, there were beers that had a case of mistaken identity. One, for example, was Killian's Irish Red. Everyone's favorite Irish beer other than Guinness, was known as a slightly smokey Irish Red Lager,not ale as the original recipe calls for, that you could always count on when you didn't want a German beer. But wait a second, Killian's was made in Ireland right? Wrong! Coors brewed it based on an old recipe.So today, I see a beer that sounds interesting: McSorley's Ale, "brewed with the Irish Spirit." Okay, so I understand that this flat out means it ain't brewed there but come on. On the packaging, it says New York, USA. On the bottle it says Wilkes-Barre, PA. So what's going on here? Well... McSorley's is an Ale House that has been in business in Manhattan since 1854. It has a wonderful storied history that was chronicled in 1943 by New Yorker Magazine writer Joseph Mitchell. McSorley's Beer Ale has been made since the inception of the 'Old Ale House,' as far as I could tell. More after the jump!Now, the bar (kind of a tourist trap) still serves the brew but you can't really classify it as an American classic. It is, but unlike Budweiser or any of the famous American blue collar beers still brewed today, this thing has switched so many hands that I don't know what to call it (it's now brewed by Pabst). The beer is less Irish than it thinks it is. The taste is like a hoppier version of a cream ale. Thankfully, it isn't as creamy as Genny Cream, but that still doesn't necessarily save it. It used to be manufactured as McSorley's Cream Stock Ale, but is now simply know as McSorley's. I'm not exactly sure how a beer can become famous and recognized when the name on it doesn't refer to the brewer but the only bar that ever served the stuff.Is it good? You bet! It has a bit of the macrophlegm that you get from cheaply produced beers like High Life and PBR, but it has much more depth in flavor than those. But they are session beers and this isn't. Quote end.-Website Link--GL http://www.thebeerinme.com/tbimplugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?6372 2013-05-18T04:23:24-07:00 Andy Interesting info GL. You learn something every day, huh? http://www.thebeerinme.com/tbimplugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?6372 2013-05-18T04:23:24-07:00 Ken Yup, and the bar looks like a cool place to visit. -GL